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Last Post 09 May 2019 08:34 AM by  MariM
PCA-All the information are detected at the first band
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Stavroula Giannakopoulou



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05 May 2019 02:21 PM
    Hello everyone! I implemented at Hyperion data the PCA method, in order to reduce dimensionality. After the implementation, I observed the results and the 99.5% of the information is detected at the first band (the total number of bands is 112). So, I would like to ask if this is OK or I should look again at the procedure. Thank you very much in advance for your help!

    MariM



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    06 May 2019 07:48 AM
    Did you spectrally subset the Hyperion data? Typically Hyperion has more than 112 "good" spectral bands. It would be unusual that the first PCA contains more than 99% of the information but I suppose it might matter what sort of image you have. Perhaps a large water scene or other very homogeneous scene would show results like that.

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    07 May 2019 11:00 AM
    Yes, I spectrally subset my Hyperion dataset and of the 242 a subset of 112 bands spectrally subsetted from the Hyperion data set. I should not have done this step first? Thank you very much for your reply!

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    08 May 2019 12:55 PM
    No, I think it is fine if you subset out the bad bands in Hyperion as there are quite a few. I just having seen it return only one PC with all of the variability (99.5%). Is your scene homogeneous?

    Stavroula Giannakopoulou



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    08 May 2019 01:14 PM
    I am sorry but I can't understand! What do you mean homogenous?

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    08 May 2019 01:15 PM
    I also have PC2, PC3 and PC4...

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    08 May 2019 02:25 PM
    Is there a diversity of materials in your image or only one or two materials? For example, a field of the same crop where you can only see plants or a large body of water would show very few materials. In this case, you may get all the relevant information in very few PC bands as in your case. Can you post the statistics from your eigenvalues?

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    09 May 2019 05:35 AM
    I masked the Hyperion image, in order to avoid the vegetation and the water, because I investigate the rock formations... Yes, the statistics from the eigenvalues are the above:

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    09 May 2019 08:34 AM
    I ran a PCA on the tutorial data set, HyperionForest.dat, and it includes all the original bands with some set to bad bands. The majority of the variability was contained in the first 5 bands while the rest included a lot of noise. Is this what you see in your data? Perhaps it is normal for Hyperion which is known to be a very noisy sensor.
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